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  • I wrote power sections for Cordelia and Fiona. I found them deleted (by admin BadleyBruised) and I undid the deletions to find a reminder saying my contribution was unnecessary and not aligned with the guidelines for the articles. So I left them as they were. deleted. 1. So my question is, if that's so then why the power sections that I DID NOT CREATE still are on the character's profiles? (Zoe, Misty, Nan, Voodoo Queen) 2. Also, isn't a power section needed for the characters? Each character have unique and common powers, but how they worked and their strength in specific ones were clearly unique to the characters, shouldn't that be a relevant reason to warrant each witch character to have a section explaining their powers and they worked? 3. I understand there's a little power list box for each character. The same list is in the "Witches" article, however the power list sections found on various articles (including mine that were deleted) show the character's unique depictions of their abilities not just the definitions of each as shown in the "Witches" article. 4. If in the end they are indeed unnecessary then all the "Powers & Abilities" written sections should be deleted not just the ones I contributed.

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    • Hi Kai, For starters if your curious of the reasons behind an edit made by a user you should message them directly on their message wall rather than on the general forums, this is not where these type of inquiries should be posted.

      I deleted the sections at Fishtanks aka Isaac's request. His reason is as follows -

      "This section should be altered to conform more closely to the style guidelines established in the Manual of Style. The guideline(s) can be found at AHS:CHAR. "Powers & Abilities" section should be removed and not re-added. The powers are already listed in Category:Witches and do not need to be personalized for the character. "

      As far as the other power sections are concerned they should be deleted as well. If you disagree then please discuss this with Isaac on his message wall http://americanhorrorstory.wikia.com/wiki/Message_Wall:FishTank - I don't have a problem with the section. However in essence repeating the powers in three different areas does seem a tad redundant.

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    • I can clarify that. The Powers section is outside the guidelines and has been written into many of the articles for Witches. It's highly redundant and totally unnecessary work to maintain or personalize per character. I saw the edits Kai made in Special:WikiActivity, and while it was fresh in my mind, I added the tag to give him the opportunity to supplement the existing Category:Witches#Magics descriptions if he (or anyone else) wished and to give an explanation as to why the section would ultimately be removed after at least a day or two. The message box with the description was in the section prior to BadlyBruisedMuse deleting it.

      Kai200995 wrote: I wrote power sections for Cordelia and Fiona. I found them deleted (by admin BadleyBruised) and I undid the deletions to find a reminder saying my contribution was unnecessary and not aligned with the guidelines for the articles. So I left them as they were. deleted. 1. So my question is, if that's so then why the power sections that

      I DID NOT CREATE still are on the character's profiles? (Zoe, Misty, Nan, Voodoo Queen)

      They will eventually be removed. I just happened to see these first.

      2. Also, isn't a power section needed for the characters? Each character have unique and common powers, but how they worked and their strength in specific ones were clearly unique to the characters, shouldn't that be a relevant reason to warrant each witch character to have a section explaining their powers and they worked?

      I disagree with the philosophy on this. The Witches (and Voudons) are not defined by their powers. The powers are useless unless they are effecting the story. The powers are flexible and any list under a character is not going to be comprehensive (We don't know that Zoe DIDN'T have Resurgence by the end of the story, only that we didn't see her demonstrate it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. So we can only document what we saw displayed and how it affected the story. There's no reason to do this in several different places. It makes harder work for the translators, makes the articles unnecessarily lengthy and over-detailed, and ultimately don't significantly add to our understanding of the depicted characters. That's why extra sections are not in the guideline. The only extra section that we are currently leaving alone until it's addressed in the new MOS involves historical (Marie Laveau, Delphine Lalaurie) or living persons (Stevie Nicks) as they differ from their depictions.

      3. I understand there's a little power list box for each character. The same list is in the "Witches" article, however the power list sections found on various articles (including mine that were deleted) show the character's unique depictions of their abilities not just the definitions of each as shown in the "Witches" article.

      Unique applications are shown, but they are depicted with so little variety that the general description of the depiction in the Witches article should be sufficient. This is for a television audience, and so they are depicted with limited variety so that even a minor variation in a given power can be identified to be the same by audiences. This is Hollywood's version of magic, not reality's version of magick.

      4. If in the end they are indeed unnecessary then all the "Powers & Abilities" written sections should be deleted not just the ones I contributed.

      You're right. They should. You're not being penalized nor your contributions singled out. If you'd like to go through the articles that still have the sections and remove them, please do so.

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    • Sorry for the late reply.(Finals week)

      @BadlyBruisedMuse: I wrote my concerns on a thread because it involved how the articles should be written, so I thought it involved all the contributors. I wrote down it was deleted by you because you're an admin, and that reminder left on the article seemed to be connected somehow, so I was wondering where it came from. I understand now it was a follow up on guidelines now.

      @FishTank: It was made clear and completely understandable why the "Powers and Abilities" sections were deleted. There are sections already acknowledging powers, it made the articles more lengthy, and I see that now.

      My fault if I went about my questions in certain way, I'll take specific concerns on message walls, from now on.

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    • There's nothing to apologize about, and you've made no fault. We were more worried that you felt insulted by our actions and that they were not well explained. I'm glad that was rectified. I'm probably the only one that actually uses the Talk: page for an article to discuss how it should be written (Talk:Fiona Goode as an example), though that is the initial purpose of that page. There's nothing wrong with any of these strategies. We (the admins) will see most of them in any case, no matter where you put them.

      We really do appreciate your help. We really are here to help you. We are happy when others contribute. We don't want contributions to be lost, and so we try to give every opportunity that those contributions are guided to the right place. We as editors and admins are here to balance making this the most comprehensive resource possible with the freedom of expression of our contributors. 

      Good luck with your finals!

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