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  • I think we are confusing Teleportation with Transmutation as you can see in the spoiler:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h4g8_T37T4

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    • The ironic part is, when they first mentioned transmutation everyone thought they said teleportation. Now I'm curious of what's AHS depiction of this power, because now what we saw as teleportation was actually transmutation, what the hell is transmutation?

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    • There is no definition of transmutation that comes even close to meaning Teleportation. 

      trans·mute (trns-myt, trnz-) v. trans·mut·ed, trans·mut·ing, trans·mutes v.tr. To change from one form, nature, substance, or state into another; transform: Alchemists tried to transmute lead into gold. See Synonyms at convert. v.intr. To undergo transmutation.


      transmute (trænzˈmjuːt) vb (tr) 1. to change the form, character, or substance of 2. (Alchemy) to alter (an element, metal, etc) by alchemy [C15: via Old French from Latin transmūtāre to shift, from trans- + mūtāre to change] transˌmutaˈbility n transˈmutable adj transˈmutably adv transˈmuter n Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003 trans•mute (trænsˈmyut, trænz-)

      v.t., v.i. -mut•ed, -mut•ing. to change from one nature, substance, form, or condition into another; transform. [1400–50; late Middle English < Latin trānsmūtāre to shift =trāns- trans- + mūtāre to change] trans•mut′a•ble, adj. trans•mut`a•bil′i•ty, n. trans•mut′a•bly, adv. trans•mut′er, n.

      I doubt the teaser is implying that transmutation is teleportation.

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    • Although I agree that transmutation is different from teleportation,  the show teaser was really clear that by transmutation it means teleportation. e.g. showing myrtles burning for Pyrokinesis and hands for telekinesis. In general, the show is not really concerned with continuity of powers or terms. 

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    • Edit -  If the series chooses to change the definition in it's entirety then this wiki will reflect that, but not until the episode airs and such a thing is confirmed. 

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    • Maybe it was a mistake? Dunno, if it's teleportation then it would be suck :/

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    • I think they simply showed one and said the other without meaning they both of them are the same....i could be wrong

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    • I agree with OP. I don't think the two were juxtaposed by accident... If they were, it was very sloppy and misleading.

      With that said, it's possible that the show is choosing to incorporate space/time manipulation into the category of transmutation.

      In alchemy, change is essentially achieved by breaking down matter into its basic elemental forms and modifying it.

      This could, in theory, include humans (witches) breaking down/manipulating themselves, space, and possibly even time to "teleport" or "change."

      From this definition, "transmute (trænzˈmjuːt) vb (tr) 1. to change the form, character, or substance of 2. (Alchemy) to alter (an element, metal, etc) by alchemy," one could infer that changing the human form and space could fall under this category, as humans and space are, in the simplest form, elements.

      Just a thought. :-) 

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    • VoodooYou wrote:
      I agree with OP. I don't think the two were juxtaposed by accident... If they were, it was very sloppy and misleading.

      With that said, it's possible that the show is choosing to incorporate space/time manipulation into the category of transmutation.

      In alchemy, change is essentially achieved by breaking down matter into its basic elemental forms and modifying it.

      This could, in theory, include humans (witches) breaking down/manipulating themselves, space, and possibly even time to "teleport" or "change."

      From this definition, "transmute (trænzˈmjuːt) vb (tr) 1. to change the form, character, or substance of 2. (Alchemy) to alter (an element, metal, etc) by alchemy," one could infer that changing the human form and space could fall under this category, as humans and space are, in the simplest form, elements.

      Just a thought. :-) 

      This is exactly what I was thinking and assume the show also is trying to hint at. 

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    • I really wanted it to be like alchemy. If it's teleportation then it would make zero sense. Transmutation could be a powerful gift, a gift that worths to the Supreme, but teleportation? Myrtle clearly can teleport and based on what we have seen, teleportation has a range limit. I mean she probably can't teleport to Rome and teleport back to New Orleans.  I hope it's a mistake or teleportation can be done via transmutation, I mean like all transmutaters are teleporters but teleporters are not transmutaters.

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    • We'll all know (hopefully) after the next episode. 


      I like the idea of it being Transmutation.

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    • It's annoying that they've made this huge mistake.  The two can't really be related, although the theries on this thread are interesting.  I don't understand why they don't simply call it what it is - teleportation.  They've made it quite clear in the trailer that they consider teleportation to be transmutation, which is ridiculous.

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    • 92.19.79.251 wrote:
      It's annoying that they've made this huge mistake.  The two can't really be related, although the theries on this thread are interesting.  I don't understand why they don't simply call it what it is - teleportation.  They've made it quite clear in the trailer that they consider teleportation to be transmutation, which is ridiculous.

      I'd wait to see the episode tomorrow before jumping to such conclusions.

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    • Well, is it possible that teleportation is like a sub-category of transmutation? If transmutation is the ability to change form then perhaps a witch can transform herself into air and then change back to flesh and blood.

      And i don't know if this means anything but World of Warcraft, a very well-known MMORPG, also classifies teleportation as a type of transmutation (as seen here: http://wowpedia.org/The_Schools_of_Arcane_Magic_-_Transmutation).

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    • The names for the Seven Wonders are likely very old and were labeled as such centuries ago when these words had different meaning than they do today. Trans is a Latin noun or prefix, meaning "across", "beyond" or "on the opposite side". Latin mutare, meaning "to change".

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    • 68.235.175.81 wrote:
      The names for the Seven Wonders are likely very old and were labeled as such centuries ago when these words had different meaning than they do today. Trans is a Latin noun or prefix, meaning "across", "beyond" or "on the opposite side". Latin mutare, meaning "to change".

      THANK YOU.

      This debate should really be over by now. Just watch the new episode.

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    • Maybe they teleport through transmutation, I mean, they transmutate into air, move as air to another position, and transmutate again into their shape. At least that's the only relation between transmutation and teleportation I can think of.

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    • Now we know that they consider teleportation to be transmutation xD

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    • I love that people (no one specifically here, just in general) are up in a big frenzy over this "mistake" made by the writers.

      For one, it's fiction, which, believe it or not, gives the writers the freedom to do what they want.

      I like that you guys are very open-minded about it, and not laying into the writers. Because, really, in the long run, does it matter? Transmutation could very well have other abilities attached to it as well. Maybe this was just the way they wanted to classify it. Also, tThe meanings of the Latin roots of "transmutation" support the shows decision, so, like Powder said, the debate should be over.

      I totally wanted to post something about WOW when I made my first post in this thread, but I already feel like a big enough nerd in my life, so I didn't. I'm glad you did though, Dylan, because it shows that the writers of AHS aren't the only ones who see teleportation as a derivative of transmutation. :-)

      I'm just happy that we finally know what the seven wonders are. :-D

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