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    05:03, January 16, 2014

    Season four theme thoughts !

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    • Well there is two things to consider. 

      Next season is Jessica Langes last season on the series. Her contract ends and she has no interest, currently, in renewing it. 

      So that alone means that season 4 is going to go out with a bang because it's her send off. 

      Then, and I don't have the source right now, I read an interview with Ryan who said that season 4 will be dark, a throwback to season 2. He joked that it would be so dark that no one would watch it. 

      So make of that what you will. 

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    • It's a shame that shows like "Grimm" and "Once Upon A Time" are already in place and doing quite well because I would love to see season 4 as Murphy's macabre twisted take on fairy tales,poems,tall tales,novels and folklore by American authors and seeing an AHS spin on worlds of American literature colliding. Imagine the sheer terror of Edgar Allan Poe's works and Stephen King's stories living in the same realm and in a common reality.

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    • American Horror Story Season 4 for your consideration, thoughts welcome:

      American Horror Story:Gold Rush

      The Gold Rush is an integral part of the American Story and the development of California and the American West. Its a story frequently romanticized but in fact it is a national tragedy laced with violent mining societies with peril plaguing the promise of the glitters of gold. The journey was often dangerous and moral code was overridden by wild enterprising fame mongering men. Travelers came from all over in pusuits. So Murphy can still do different locations. The stereotypical "ghost town" associated with mining villiges holds many storylines and true myths for Murphy to explore. Fights and folkflore amongst Mexicans vs. the miners and Native Americans vs. the miners would sweeten the social justice juice that Murphy has an affinity for. I see a season with potential for a strong male cast to emerge (seeing this season is female centric) and a season filled with death, disease, greed, glamour, murder, and mayhem as we all catch gold fever watching AHS: Gold Rush

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    • As long as we're posting ideas, I'd love to see a season dedicated to a carnival or circus. Who doesn't wanna see the kind of freak show attractions the ahs team would make?

      I also would love a season in some town that is by the sea and crawling with monsterous aquatic life with ties to a cult. I want to see Ryan's take on Lovecraft themes (except maybe not the alien part. I really hated the aliens plot in Asylum once it turned out it wasn't in his head). People going crazy, ancient beasts rising again, hybrid monster people. It would definitely share things in common with Asylum.

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    • I loved the Gold Rush idea.

      I've thought a lot about future themes and ended up having quite complex ideas (even wrote a script for a possible first episode). My ideas are:

      - Freakshow / Circus / Carnival [1930]: It would be nice to see a season in such an environment, it is pretty scary and versatile. I imagine even some characters as a ventriloquist who believes his dummy is alive and obeys his orders (Evan Peters (son of the owners), a psychic gypsy (good social topic) that the suffered greatly during childhood because of prejudice and eventually becomes a unstable, manipulative and unpredictable woman (Lily Rabe), the unhappy married cruel circus owners (Jessica Lange and Dennis O'Hare / Ian Mcshane) and an attraction you do not know what is exactly (I leave it to Ryan), but lives locked and "eliminates" employees that sees thing they ain't supposed to.

      - Theatre [today]: An old and respected theater that was closed after a few actors begin to incorporate their characters is purchased by a former actress years latter (Jessica Lange) [she was possessed by Roxie Hart] and reopens the doors, but the horror continues. The theater could be haunted by an AHS version of Phantom of the Opera and some characters could be: an actress who tries to do everything and then some for her family (Lily Rabe), but is possessed by Lady Macbeth, a young and foolish actor extremely fascinated by fame (Evan Peters) possessed by Dorian Gray, a couple of employees of the theater (Dennis O'Hare and KathyBates) possessed by the terrifying protagonists of Sweeney Todd and competitive actor curious by his past (Iwan Rheon) possessed by Oedipus .

      - Road (different times): That was the I wrote the screenplay, soon I will make a blogpost detailing the subject. I would like to send the script to FX / Ryan Murphy, but do not know how.

      I also think it could be included in the cast great actors who are outside, or let others return. They are:

      Kate Mara (Murder House), Vera Farmiga (Bates Motel), Ian Mcshane (Asylum), Lucy Lawless (Spartacus), Iwan Rheon (Game Of Thrones, Terry o' Quinn (Lost), Carice Van Houten (Game Of Thrones, Allan Hyde (True Blood), Chloe Sevigny (Asylum) and Zachary Quinto (Murder House and Asylum)

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    • OMG, the "Theatre" idea is great, I can see it now. My hat goes off to you!

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    • American Horror Story: Dust

      Set in the most hopeless times of the American prairie, the Dirty Thirties were poverty stricken, catastrophic times that tested the soul. Migrant vigilantes emerged and often raped, pilaged, and burned out of dispair. Outbreaks ran rampant as well as fear. Murphy can infuse elements of deformity as he did with the rafters from season 2 to potray the AHS mutant take on dust bowl diseases such as typhoid, malaria, TB etc. He also can add canibalism amongst the starving. The photographs taken from this era are truly horrific. Murphy can manipulate the "black blizzards" of the Dust Bowl to have a terrifying metereologic AHS flair. This season can have a very apocalyptic flavor to it and fictionalized as only AHS can do. Rural America was literally blown away and only chaos was left. Murphy can write something to make John Steinbeck rattle in his grave and be proud of. Murphy can deal with a myriad of social topics, including environmentalism. Prostitutes emerged, lawlessness was rampant. Paranormal-like physic events occured due to electric currents made by swirling dust, voltage was strong enough to render someone or something unconscious. Enough to raise the dead?!?! Animal plagues of biblical times occured due to changing ecosystem ,spiders and centipedes and other critters permeated the land, Murphy can use this to his advantage, AHS versions of mass amounts of bugs will run across the TV screen. 7,000 people died as a result from the Dust Bowl due to its effects, a mass murder by the hands of mother nature..."Mother AHS" Jessica Lange playing a surreal force on earth in American Horror Story: Dust anyone???

      The season would be of epic disaster proportions left to be forecasted by Murphy

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    • Sorry if the above had any typos or spelling errors, like I meant raspers, not rafters...my brain is on rapid fire when I write these things and my fingers don't go as fast!

      PS- The promo ads that FX runs prior to airing can feature a chilling version of "Dust in the Wind" for the season I suggested above. This would be akin to how they used "Tainted Love" etc.

      Feel free to comment on it, thanks

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    • 63.143.208.220 wrote:
      Sorry if the above had any typos or spelling errors, like I meant raspers, not rafters...my brain is on rapid fire when I write these things and my fingers don't go as fast!

      PS- The promo ads that FX runs prior to airing can feature a chilling version of "Dust in the Wind" for the season I suggested above. This would be akin to how they used "Tainted Love" etc.

      Feel free to comment on it, thanks

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    • Found some amazing pictures to ship the AHS:Dust season, wouldn't post after I tried to copy/paste :(

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    • As Murphy has put vampires back on the table (in a comment at PaleyFest '13), I would love to see the AHS take on this favorite of horror tropes. Ideally, I want to see the end of vamps as the charming, fey protagonists that Anne Rice masterfully created and many sexually repressed women have since copied with increasing ineptitude. I want to see the return of a creature we openly fear rather than one we secretly desire. I want to see something new of course; to eschew the oft-tread Romani myths and explore the legends of Africa, Asia and Jewish tradition. Perhaps we can begin with an exploration of vampire cultism in the US and go from there.

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    • How about working the vampire theme into the plotlines of an AHS season in Alaska? We've seen the 30 days of Night take but there is still room in the darkness of Alaska for new vampire tales to breed. I put some ideas about an American Horror Story: Frozen season on another thread like this one asking about future season ideas on this wiki.

      An AHS season in Alaska would be chilling in every sense of the word.

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    • how about American Horror story: the great depression

      Everyone is so broke and therefore goes into a deep depression. they don't have jobs and so they can't aford anything anymore so they complain that they can't aford to live lavish life styles any longer. LOL idk im just kidding. but i also thought the gold rush idea would be cool. it could be a way to get asian american and immigration stuff and race tolerance into the story line. though idk how it would be tied into a horror theme. seems kind of mundane if you think about it. just a bunch of cranky prospectors sitting around panning for gold.

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    • what if it was American horror story Apocolypse. continuing the first American horror story where they gave birth to a demon child. maybe that child grows up and take over and does some twisted evil shit. just saying. That would be freakin crazy bat shit awesomely amazing and scary

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    • 172.6.81.194 wrote:
      what if it was American horror story Apocolypse. continuing the first American horror story where they gave birth to a demon child. maybe that child grows up and take over and does some twisted evil shit. just saying. That would be freakin crazy bat shit awesomely amazing and scary


      I think the title you're looking for is American Horror Story: The Final Conflict. If they set it far enough in the future they could even get Sam Neill to play Michael.

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    • In response to if a Gold Rush season could be told from a horror perspective, the answer is yes. The real story of the gold rush is the story of the genocide of Native people, the theft of land from Mexico and crimes against many other sections of the people. These are crimes driven by the nature of a system that places the accumulation of wealth above everything else. Huge financial empires were built off of the gold rush, from families like the Hearsts to companies like Wells Fargo and the Bank of California. The truth is that the wealth of California's elite is dripping with blood.

      Lets begin by saying genocide is a horror in itself, AHS has no problem touching on sensitive issues of that nature, Dr. Arden(season 2) was a Nazi don't forget.

      Let it also be known that Native American curses are amongst the most foul, they are enough to make the Voodoo Queen's skin crawl. Curses can be worked into a plotline as payback to the miners whose pure purpose was to kill. Native American mythology features shapeshifers/skinwalkers...people becoming animals, truly disturbing to watch AHS turn men into monsters, all in all the Gold Rush was men becoming animals over the pursuit of fortune.

      Water became contaminated with poison due to greed. As miners became more industrious in the mining methods, arsenic, mercury, cyanide would spill into water supply, Murphy can make gruesome creatures out of this plotline.

      Mining towns are the true American ghost towns. Have literal and figurative demons walking around the towns that greed built. Love to see scenes with walls dripping with blood. Alot of true ghost tales and hauntings surround mining villages.

      AMAZING cast potential especially in the mining town plotlines. Jessica Lange as a saloon brothel type matron, Evan Peters as a rugged mining cowboy who makes a deal with the devil to gain fortune, Maybe Ian McShane or someone else as a ruthless sheriff...the list can be expanded upon.

      Campy western stuff can be worked in, shootouts etc.

      Present day storylines can be worked in too. A modern day tycoon, like a California elite type whose family has blood on thier hands from the Gold Rush, looks to develop on hallowed land, but is surrounded by mysterious hauntings and in a twist we learn he is a victim of a curse "on his house". Some shit like that.

      AHS: Gold Rush is a Gold Mine of horror if you dare to explore the history and Murphy gives it an AHS polish.

      Old miners are creepy already, so thats a start

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    • I don't really see the gold rush thing. Shoot outs and gold mining are cool but i'm not exaclty sure how that would translate into horror just becasue you can throw native americans into the mix. For example the first series was ghosts, ghosts are creepy. Then second we have Insane Asylum with aliens and mad scientists in the mix, Also creepy. Gold miners and cow boys? not so creepy. i just don't get it. I do think the idea about revisiting the fist season to see where they left off with Michael to see what havoc we brings to the world

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    • As much as some fans would love to see some sort of continuing storyline from past seasons, its not in the cards as AHS is not meant to be that way.

      So part of the fun with AHS is having the ability to add fear to the horrors of American life in a way that only the genius of Murphy can do. He made a mundane "haunted house" into the mind bending gore that season one was, he made a seemingly cliche abandoned mental hospital into the utter terror that season two was, he has done a splendid job turning basic stories of witches and voodoo in America in season three into a scare fest. So why can't he re-imagine the quintessential American West and mining ghost town into something equally horrific as he has done thus far in AHS 1-3 ???

      Native American skinwalkers are something of pure supernatural fear and to include it into the Gold Rush season would be unreal. It would be a way to include a warewolf type element without getting tacky like Twilight is. Skinwalkers are responsible for all types of horror like murder, mind reading, possesion, shapeshifting and much more evil doing. The Native American element is only one plotline that Murphy can explore but should include.

      AHS hasn't tamed the wild west and its worth a shot.

      Check out the old Twilight Zone "THE GRAVE" and "MR DENTON ON DOOMSDAY", great classic western sci fi tv episodes that offer some good possible elements for Murphy to draw from.

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    • Inspiration from "Weird West", Steampunk, and Sci Fi Westerns could contribute to a Gold Rush themed AHS, there is plenty for Murphy to work with to make a solid western type season.

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    • In the first two seasons I found the idea of evil being centered in one place (the Murder House, Briarcliff) one of the more interesting aspects of the show. I quite enjoy the current season with the doomed Coven and the broken truce between witch clans, but I would like for season four to fall back onto a similar "evil gathers here" kind of theme. I suppose it could be argued that the singular place of the current season is New Orleans and I would argue that perhaps that is the case. I would love for season four to take place in an area with lots of traffic...idea places would be a hotel or an airport or maybe an upscale resturant, etc. The hotel could have a collection of supernatural guests, the airport could have quite a few different horror stories that come together considering airports connect us all. This would allow for a introduction of other horror themes from different cultures, while allowing the story to have an American feel overall, and a representation of America as a melting pot. On the same note an apartment complex would be interesting (maybe less of a chance for cultural diversity though) and allow for a varyity of characters.

      Whatever season four turns out to be, I'm sure I won't be disappointed...this is a show that remains spectacular throughout its seasons.

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    • In today's day in age of more than one way of travel we are more connected than ever, not just by roads, air space, and bridges, but also by information. Crossing the pyschological lines of communication amongst people, places, and things can be frightening. Look at the situation of the world now with the threats of the NSA, WikiLeaks etc. Murphy can add a supernatural ingenuity to the information highway. Mind control, government collapse, identity theft and mass hysteria can insue. Give it a "War Games", "Terminator" type feel, where machines control man, maybe add flashforwards to a "Mad Max" type of vibe describing the post apolyptic America that resulted. Murphy has a great platform to add political commentary on the state of the "Big Brother" universe we are living in. Have to brainstorm on how something like that would have a "horror" feel to it. Besides including influence/throwbacks to the American way of life where there was constant threat of nuclear war/world collapse, some of you may have lived through "bomb" drills at schools, heard from my mom/dad. The Twilight Zone "The Shelter" is a great piece showing a sci fi account of the horrors of that time.  But a season that dealt with "how we are connected" may not be able to be made in the AHS mold of terror.

      I do like an AIRPORT theme tho...

      How can it work? This is how:

      American Horror Story: Terminal

      Set in a strange airport, the season would intertwine many seperate sets of characters with very disturbing backstories. They are all stuck in the airport for a strange circumstance, layover whatever.

      The twist is this, the airport is some sort of holding area for souls, like a purgatory of sorts. The people don't know they are dead, and are unknowingly walking amongst the dead, from all parts of the life and the afterlife, and are forced to come face to face with the horrors they caused. The ghosts of past literally coming back to haunt them. The season can be a loose AHS version/interpretation of Dante's Inferno with some thematics.

      Tie in a Bermuda Triangle type of feel dealing with lost aircraft, suspended between metaphysical spaces etc. This season could effectively deal with a time travel aspect too.

      American Horror Story: Terminal ...has possiblilties to take "flight"

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    • I need the carnival idea to be a thing. Please.

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      I need the carnival idea to be a thing. Please.


      I can see myself buying a ticket to the AHS circus, but it has to be under a big top all its own. Carnivale, though no longer airing, is still a pretty recent show. (sidenote: Carnivale was set in the Dust Bowl era, so a Dust Bowl AHS season with a fresh AHS take on that era COULD work).

      The AHS allure is that it is grounbreaking television and has unique shock value using American "horror" as a vehicle to talk about gripping issues in a creative and captivating way. I just wouldn't want a carnival theme to be a "been there,seen that/ done that" season with recycled plotlines. I look forward to every season of AHS to be a fresh take on classichorror genres, haunted houses, mental institutions, witchcraft etc.

      For me, it would need to be more of a season that is just about freaks. As much as I like seeing Murphy's mutilated creations (Infantata, Raspers etc.) it isn't a portrayal of "true" horror to me. If we are going into a carnival type direction, it can't be just centered around freaks. Maybe more about a social commentary about deformity/defects/disease and the physical implications of those maladies and how that era of America viewed them.  Also an "eye of the beholder" theme can be thrown in. The carnival is more of a safe haven for the misfits, but a prison as well. Keep it 19th century with present day storylines, I think Murphy likes to always have a present day correlation as evidenced by seasons 1-3. American history offers alot with this theme and true figures/stories can be retold/re-imagined from an AHS viewpoint as we have seen with other true historical accounts in AHS seasons thus far.

      Throw in some classic elements of "Carnival of Souls", "Circus of Horrors", stay true to the themes presented. The sideshow aspect of traveling circuses would be great AHS cinema.

      I'd love to see some pyschological twist ending to a carnival themed season.

      Be amused in... American Horror Story: Attraction(s)

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    • Before i was a little opposed to the dust bowl thing and still not quite on the fence with it, but i could see farming things taking a path similar to that of children of the corn or something weird and creepy like that. I also thought about something like civil war but the current season kind of ties into those times as it is. It would also be interesting, as stated earlier, to see magic of other places such as native americans. maybe it will come up in this season? Carnival sounds awesome. I've also always found gypsies to be really creepy and misunderstood and that would be a great way to incorporate them into a american story. Trying to think of whatelse is american. maybe like secret societies? like how people are afraid of illuminati and stuff? I was also thinking about things like "American horror story: Paradise" where they're on an island paradise maybe everything seems perfect but then things go awry. (sounds a little cliche reading it back and seems like it's already been done but i think ryan could twist it around some how). but yea my top favorite is the secret sociey and that could possibly tie into the one mentioned before "final conflict" where elietesst do some weird dark stuff to stay in power and gain control.

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    • to add on to my previous post, i was thinking that since this season has such an emphasis on female roles, that next season be a male season. maybe american horror story: fraternity. it could tie into the "final conflict" idea, and secret society idea. Someone in a high place riled with conflict who has someone close to them and they both hold dirty secrets and their past comes to haunt them or to actual college kids in a fraternity or trying to join. first idea: their history dates back to college where they were both a part of the same fraternity and share dark secrets etc. I believe that fraternities are more popular in the US and they also have a lot of secrets and rituals and stuff, living in a frat house, tons of secrets and stuff behind closed doors. Group of guys doing really messed up things just to join and be a member, people who are already members have done some dark things as well as making other people do messed up things. there is a significant amount of stories on deaths from fraternity stuff going wrong. as well as the fact that there are also people who have long lineages within fraterities who have connections in high places who can help cover up damage.

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    • IDEAS FOR AMERICAN HORROR STORY: SEASON FOUR

      - A continuation of the Murder House story, perhaps showing Constance during her time raising the Anti-Christ in New York (Ryan Murphy has actually hinted at this being a possibility).

      - A circus/freak show, possibly with a historical figure such as John Wayne Gacy, and several semi-magical or paranormal freaks with a variety of powers (similar to Darren Shan's "Cirque du Freak" series).

      - A flashback to the gold mining ages, and of the brutal violence configured between the north and south, which results in a ghost town that can be shown in present day by a group of unfortunate tourists. Something may even lurk in the mines (such as a malevolent Native American spirit), which caused many deaths on its own...

      - A fraternity of serial killers or occult practices, whose members have very dark skeletons in their closets (including drugs, rape, and murder). The new member has no idea what he/she has gotten themself into, but quickly comes to find out.

      - [I know Ryan Murphy stated he would never do vampires, but....] A flashback to the Victorian Age, when horse-drawn carriages were still in use and women were subjected to unhappy marriages with their husbands, having been forced into doing hard chores whilst wearing tight corsets. A married woman longs for a way to escape her abusive spouse, and becomes attracted to a dark and handsome man who turns out to be a vampire.

      - A post-apocalyptic world where the world has become terraformed to an unrecognizable state by terrorist attacks, which mutated many people and animals. A safe haven has been built for the remaining human survivors who struggle desperately to survive. A person who lost a dear famly member still believes they are alive, and so they sneak out of the haven to find that person. Meanwhile, tensions brew in the haven in a struggle for power over the citizens, and flashbacks are shown revealing lives before the apocalypse.

      - A theater where inexplicable tragedy has befallen many of its performers (such as lights crushing them to death from the catwalks, or falling off of a prop and snapping their neck). Many believe that the theater is cursed or possessed, and when an actor/actress becomes too indulged in their role, they are driven to mental instability and seek to murder their co-stars. In the meantime, envy or disgust flare between the other actors and actresses, who are getting slowly killed off in very brutal and violent ways. 

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    • First off, I love coming here to be a part of brainstorming and hearing everyones' ideas! I am really excited that some are catching onto the Gold Rush and Dust Bowl seasons I'm trying to ship as well.

      But I came here right now to present an exclusive insight on my vision on how an American Horror Story AIRPORT theme can work using Dante's Inferno as a model. What is more terrifying than seeing Murphy's take on Hell on Earth using America as its map? Its a season where maximum amounts of sin and acts of malice can be portrayed in macabre ways only Murphy can do. Like a best of the best of the "bad" that we have seen so far in AHS.

      This is how it can be done:

      The season opens up at an exclusive "White Party" on the Hamptons where we hear, ironically, "Heaven is a Place on Earth" playing in the background. The setting is our antiherione Dana Gary's sweeping waterfront property (Dana Gary being a nod to Dante Alighieri)

      Dana (intended for Lily Rabe) is a mega billionaire (someone who would put Ivanka Trump to shame) who in her thirties has "lived the life" after inheriting her family's fortune under "unfortunate" circumstances, being the accidental death of her benefactor mother due to a "mix up" of medications she had been taking battling a terminal illness. We later learn through flashbacks it was Dana who caused her mother's death due to threats of being left out of the will.

      Ever since the death one year ago, Dana has had seemingly other-earthly powers to get whatever she wants.

      At the party she meets a shadowy woman (Lange) who has told Dana how "proud" she is of her meteoric rise to prominence and all the "things" she has done this year to "secure" her place in high society.

      We learn through flashbacks that Lange has always been mysteriously present in Dana's life whenever she has reached a milestone in her cutthroat rise to the top.

      Meanwhile Dana meets a costumed woman at her party who she wants to throw out for not "being in white" and spoiling her event, this costumed woman just writes on a bar napkin "Abandon" and dissapears.

      Dana, thinking she has had too many drugs, as usual, pays no mind but puts the note in her pocket just in case.

      Dana then mingles in her glory, when a hot young man catches her eye, no questions asked, because she IS Dana Gary, the man has sex on the beach with her, under the stars, She tells him she is leaving for Europe the next day, to make mega business deals with a "weak" European market selling her family's business out (as Dana has become greedy and has already "used" her mother's death to get her this far) and making her the richest in the world, ending up in Florence.

      The handsome man says to her "I hope you get there" before he heads back to the house, materializing into the dunes.

      Dana looks back at her "palace" and sees Lange "raising a glass" to her.

      She then takes some pills and passes out on the beach...

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    • 63.143.221.39 wrote:
      First off, I love coming here to be a part of brainstorming and hearing everyones' ideas! I am really excited that some are catching onto the Gold Rush and Dust Bowl seasons I'm trying to ship as well.

      But I came here right now to present an exclusive insight on my vision on how an American Horror Story AIRPORT theme can work using Dante's Inferno as a model. What is more terrifying than seeing Murphy's take on Hell on Earth using America as its map? Its a season where maximum amounts of sin and acts of malice can be portrayed in macabre ways only Murphy can do. Like a best of the best of the "bad" that we have seen so far in AHS.

      This is how it can be done:

      The season opens up at an exclusive "White Party" on the Hamptons where we hear, ironically, "Heaven is a Place on Earth" playing in the background. The setting is our antiherione Dana Gary's sweeping waterfront property (Dana Gary being a nod to Dante Alighieri)

      Dana (intended for Lily Rabe) is a mega billionaire (someone who would put Ivanka Trump to shame) who in her thirties has "lived the life" after inheriting her family's fortune under "unfortunate" circumstances, being the accidental death of her benefactor mother due to a "mix up" of medications she had been taking battling a terminal illness. We later learn through flashbacks it was Dana who caused her mother's death due to threats of being left out of the will.

      Ever since the death one year ago, Dana has had seemingly other-earthly powers to get whatever she wants.

      At the party she meets a shadowy woman (Lange) who has told Dana how "proud" she is of her meteoric rise to prominence and all the "things" she has done this year to "secure" her place in high society.

      We learn through flashbacks that Lange has always been mysteriously present in Dana's life whenever she has reached a milestone in her cutthroat rise to the top.

      Meanwhile Dana meets a costumed woman at her party who she wants to throw out for not "being in white" and spoiling her event, this costumed woman just writes on a bar napkin "Abandon" and dissapears.

      Dana, thinking she has had too many drugs, as usual, pays no mind but puts the note in her pocket just in case.

      Dana then mingles in her glory, when a hot young man catches her eye, no questions asked, because she IS Dana Gary, the man has sex on the beach with her, under the stars, She tells him she is leaving for Europe the next day, to make mega business deals with a "weak" European market selling her family's business out (as Dana has become greedy and has already "used" her mother's death to get her this far) and making her the richest in the world, ending up in Florence.

      The handsome man says to her "I hope you get there" before he heads back to the house, materializing into the dunes.

      Dana looks back at her "palace" and sees Lange "raising a glass" to her.

      She then takes some pills and passes out on the beach...

      (LOST IN THE WOODS)

      Next we see Dana waking up in the same clothes she was wearing at the party in the back of a limo, confused and hungover, typical.

      She doesn't recognize the driver, but we learn she fired her driver the night before, and this new driver is her replacement.

      The driver says her bags are packed and she has everything she needs for her "trip" and the tickets are "on the house"

      Dana begins to notice strange things on her ride to the airport, and senses that they are lost in the wooded road. She demands that they pull over and she call for another driver. Dana gets left on the side of the road seemingly for dead, by the driver who laughs speeding away. She begins to hallucinate getting attacked by wild AHS versions of animals.

      She comes to and a lady in a beat up car comes to her rescue, she is played by Kathy Bates and is the (Virgil) character.



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    • (LIMBO)

      Dana learns that the Bates character is an "author" constantly jet-set finding new stories to write, her name is Vickie, turns out is a "ghost writer"

      She is heading to the same mysterious airport as well, to start another adventure to find good characters to write about.

      Dana(Rabe) and Vickie(Bates) seem to hit it off despite Dana's lavish and unbearable attitude. Dana sees alot of hitchikers along the way that are quite distubing to her(as us the viewer).

      They arrive at the airport, in a lush green countryside. They learn that their flights are delayed and must wait in this strange place. Dana is happy to be at this seemingly private airport so she doesn't have to bother with common people so, she is happy not to get recoognized by alot of other visitors at the airport, but she feels likes she knows them...some folks seem to walk around dazed and lost. Very dreamlike. But again, Dana keeps popping pills to deal with it.

      Enter other characters: The characters represent different sins. Have yet to brainstorm, but the end result would be these characters are forced to "land" at the appropriate spot, through flashbacks we would learn why they are there. Murphy would add AHS hellish monstrocity/personification to his interpretation of Dante's creatures that the characters meet in thier "circle of hell".

      All the "circles of hell" are represented by different stops/ airports in America. Murphy's "Hell on Earth" would be the landscape/structures/highlights of American cities.

      LUST- Chicago, the "windy" city, paying respect to the punishment of whom were overcome by lust. They are punished by being blown violently back and forth by strong winds, preventing them to find peace and rest. Our AHS characters would find themselves "stuck" there in a very disturbing setting.

      GLUTTONY- Seattle, a "cold rainy" city, Sinners in this circle of Hell are punished by being forced to lie in a vile slush that is produced by never ending icy rain.

      GREED- Las Vegas, city of greed, In the Fourth Circle of Hell, Dante(Rabe's character of Dana) and Virgil (Bates character of Vickie) see the souls of people who are punished for greed. They are divided into two groups – those who hoarded possessions and those who lavishly spent it – jousting. They use great weights as a weapon, pushing it with their chests which symbolizes their selfish drive for fortune during lifetime.

      ANGER- New York, The Fifth Circle of Hell is where the wrathful and sullen are punished for their sins. Dante(Dana/Rabe) and Virgil(Vickie/Bates) see the wrathful fighting each other on the surface of the river Styx (Hudson River) and the sullen gurgling beneath the surface of the water. Again, the punishment reflects the type of the sin committed during lifetime.

      HERESY- Pittsburgh, (I used Pittsburgh because of its iron/steel history in America)Murphy re-imagines this wretched city where Rabe and Bates behold a wide plain surrounded by iron walls. There are fields full of distress and torment terrible. Burning tombs are littered about the landscape. Inside these flaming sepulchers suffer the heretics.

      VIOLENCE- Texas??? (Dante makes reference to burning sand/rain and boiling blood/fire in the Seventh Circle of Hell...I thought a stop in Texas may work). "the Inner Ring are blasphemers and sodomites, residing in a desert of burning sand and burning rain falling from the sky."





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      Dana learns that the Bates character is an "author" constantly jet-set finding new stories to write, her name is Vickie, turns out is a "ghost writer"



      She is heading to the same mysterious airport as well, to start another adventure to find good characters to write about.



      Dana(Rabe) and Vickie(Bates) seem to hit it off despite Dana's lavish and unbearable attitude. Dana sees alot of hitchikers along the way that are quite distubing to her(as us the viewer).



      They arrive at the airport, in a lush green countryside. They learn that their flights are delayed and must wait in this strange place. Dana is happy to be at this seemingly private airport so she doesn't have to bother with common people so, she is happy not to get recoognized by alot of other visitors at the airport, but she feels likes she knows them...some folks seem to walk around dazed and lost. Very dreamlike. But again, Dana keeps popping pills to deal with it.



      Enter other characters: The characters represent different sins. Have yet to brainstorm, but the end result would be these characters are forced to "land" at the appropriate spot, through flashbacks we would learn why they are there. Murphy would add AHS hellish monstrocity/personification to his interpretation of Dante's creatures that the characters meet in thier "circle of hell".



      All the "circles of hell" are represented by different stops/ airports in America.



      LUST- Chicago, the "windy" city, paying respect to the punishment of whom were overcome by lust. They are punished by being blown violently back and forth by strong winds, preventing them to find peace and rest. Our AHS characters would find themselves "stuck" there in a very disturbing setting.



      GLUTTONY- Seattle, a "cold rainy" city, Sinners in this circle of Hell are punished by being forced to lie in a vile slush that is produced by never ending icy rain.



      GREED- Las Vegas, city of greed, In the Fourth Circle of Hell, Dante(Rabe's character of Dana) and Virgil (Bates character of Vickie) see the souls of people who are punished for greed. They are divided into two groups – those who hoarded possessions and those who lavishly spent it – jousting. They use great weights as a weapon, pushing it with their chests which symbolizes their selfish drive for fortune during lifetime.



      ANGER- New York, The Fifth Circle of Hell is where the wrathful and sullen are punished for their sins. Dante(Dana/Rabe) and Virgil(Vickie/Bates) see the wrathful fighting each other on the surface of the river Styx (Hudson River) and the sullen gurgling beneath the surface of the water. Again, the punishment reflects the type of the sin committed during lifetime.



      HERESY- Pittsburgh, (I used Pittsburgh because of its iron/steel history in America)Murphy re-imagines this wretched city where Rabe and Bates behold a wide plain surrounded by iron walls. There are fields full of distress and torment terrible. Burning tombs are littered about the landscape. Inside these flaming sepulchers suffer the heretics.



      VIOLENCE- Texas??? (Dante makes reference to burning sand/rain and boiling blood/fire in the Seventh Circle of Hell...I thought a stop in Texas may work). "the Inner Ring are blasphemers and sodomites, residing in a desert of burning sand and burning rain falling from the sky."



       

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    • it would be awesome to see the new york one. as it being jessica lange's last season and that left on such an erie tone.

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    • FRAUD- Not sure

      TREACHERY- the 9th Circle of Hell is a land with chilling cold winds that freeze the thick ice, I'm thinking that the airport/stop has to be in Alaska.

      At this stop is where the action takes place and Dana meets Satan.

      Throughout this season we learn by flasbacks that Dana has commited treachery by killing her benefactor mother to gain the family fortune, throughout her sinful year, as she rose to power she committed all the other "sins" along her way. The shadowy figure (Lange) has been at every sinflul "milestone" Dana had. They have a supernatural showdown of sorts.

      Lange gets to play the ultimate role, the Devil/Satan herself.

      We see throughout flashbacks that Lange has been with the other minor characters "helping" them to commit thier sins as well.

      We, as the viewer, don't realize Dana and the others are "dead" until like the second to last episode. Due to Murphy's creative modern interpretation of the "Circles of Hell" in America we think people are just landing/visiting creepy locations, really they are an AHS take on Dante's Inferno.

      Bates (Virgil) lets Dana know she has been her guide and we learn by flashbacks how Bates' character (Vickie/Virgil) came to be...she was the costumed lady at the party that wrote "Abandon" on the bar napkin.

      We learn that Dana OD'd on the beach at her party at episode 1.

      But in a twist, Bates gives Dana a second chance, saying she can live, after she defeats the Devil/Lange, staying true to how Dante, "slid down Satan's fur"...

      Dante was actually a living being going through the Inferno.

      In a "Christmas Carol" type ending, Dana wakes up, at her dying mother's bedside in the moments before she, in her alternate life, killed her...

      We see Satan/Lange peering in the room, Dana/Rabe looks at the pills...her hand stopping midway...

      The season ends with us not knowing if she went through with it.

      AMAZING filmaking this season would be with AMAZING characters/roles.

      American Horror Story: Terminal...Where will YOU land???

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    • Personally I'd like a season that revisits the themes of christian mythology.. I.e Angels and Demons and all the deep rooted, often glossed over, parts of the abrahamic beliefs. 

      Something that resembles maybe Constantine, but obviously much more morbid, scary, disturbing, and fun. 

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    • BadlyBruisedMuse wrote:
      Personally I'd like a season that revisits the themes of christian mythology.. I.e Angels and Demons and all the deep rooted, often glossed over, parts of the abrahamic beliefs. 

      Something that resembles maybe Constantine, but obviously much more morbid, scary, disturbing, and fun. 

      I agree:)

      That is why I took the time to present a realistic possibility on how we can have a season in which AHS can portray a "Hell on Earth" using an Airport theme. The viewer will think that its just going to be a creepy season where uncanny things are happening at places around the country and in "ordinary" citizens' lives. I love my idea of a modern version of "Dante's Inferno" allowing Murphy and company to add AHS artistry on the demons that Dante (In my version Dana) faced, taking advantage of the American map. There are creative ways real religious demons can be imagined on screen, not taking away from any religious undertones of the past seasons.

      I think a "Dante's Inferno" AHS style can be incredibly morbid and unsettling, In the idea I presented you have characters (that can be further developed and I'm working on) that are not just going through pyschological hell, but unknowingly are going through actual Hell. Murphy can get some real scary mind bending effects with ghosts/hallucinations/demons/sin into a season like that and when the big reveal that the viewer actually is witnessing "Hell on Earth" in the season, HUGE shock value. People question the afterlife all the time. Imagine not knowing you are actually living in the Hell you made for yourself?

      Also my other ideas for a Western flavored (Gold Rush/Dust Bowl) season allows for the sheer terror of North American mythology.

      Right now my favorite season to ship is the Airport "Dante's Inferno/Hell on Earth" season.

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    • i think the 'hell on earth' thing could tie into the continuation of the first season with constance's child growing up

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    • That would actually be really clever! I love the idea of Lange reclaiming her role as Constance with the Anti-Christ, all while doing the "hell on earth" idea. When you think about the horrible things Constance did (i.e.- having Beau killed, beating and swearing at Tate, killing Hugo and Moira, stealing the Harmons' baby, locking away Addie and calling her ugly, bashing Travis's dreams, neglecting Harry's love for her), it would only be fitting that Constance herself became the one trapped on earth (like what happened to everyone she killed/had killed for her in the Murder House).

      The irony of Constance being the one trapped for all eternity would be awesome! Plus, revisiting ideas from the first season could give potential for Connie Britton and Dylan McDermott to guest star, showing what might have occured in the Murder House since Constance left. Either that, or even just the Harmons being mentioned would make me happy! Who knows? They might even appear as hallucinations to Constance because of her guilty conscience! :)

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    • I actually hate the idea of continuing past seasons. AHS is successful for a reason, and that's because it reinvents it's self every year. Season 1 is done and will hopefully will stay that way. 

      They can still do the hell on earth, but without rehashing an old story.

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    • Considering, in my opinion, AHS has knocked out the themes of:

      Witches

      Ghosts/Demons

      and Aliens


      The next themes would probably be somewhere along the lines of vampires, zombies, werewolves, angels/demons, or just monsters in general. I wouldn't expect to see zombies or vampires/werewolves though due to shows like The Walking Dead and movies like Twilight.

      My thrown out idea themes are something along the lines of the 1500's plague, underwater kraken/devil mermaid type things, 1870's Jack the Ripper / French Catacombs type Senario, or even 1920's Circus/Freak Show. Feel free to use any themes to create a story to go along with it.

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    • I would love to see the potential of the Circus/Freak Show, because I can envision so much that Ryan Murphy can do with that idea! If something like this happened to be the fourth season, it would be cool to see the end of this season's references to a Circus/Freak Show (i.e - Fiona belittles Myrtle Snow as a 'clown').

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    • I'd like to see a deserted island. I think that could turn out wonderfully twisted. A deserted island that many people are drawn to that contains cannibals and mutated humans. Maybe not, because I would be too scared to watch it. I personally could not even watch asylum because it disturbed me too much.

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    • 63.143.209.49 wrote:
      How about working the vampire theme into the plotlines of an AHS season in Alaska? We've seen the 30 days of Night take but there is still room in the darkness of Alaska for new vampire tales to breed. I put some ideas about an American Horror Story: Frozen season on another thread like this one asking about future season ideas on this wiki.

      An AHS season in Alaska would be chilling in every sense of the word.

      I was thinking about something along these lines, or maybe when they meant it was similar to season 2, they meant it took place in the past, so maybe a dracula type theme.

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    • I don't have the source right now but I read that Bates and Bassett will be in Season 4, along with Jessica, of course. Also, I read the theme may be vampires, Ryan and Brad are thinking about it.

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    • HA! So Ryan Murphy's changing his tune now and thinking about vampires!!!! YESSS!

      Here are two separate ideas for a possible vampire story (the first having been featured on an older post):

      1.) A flashback to the Victorian Age, when horse-drawn carriages were still in use and women were subjected to unhappy marriages with their husbands, having been forced into doing hard chores whilst wearing tight corsets. A married woman longs for a way to escape her abusive spouse, and becomes attracted to a dark and handsome man who turns out to be a vampire. This may lead her into such things as Jack the Ripper or the Frech Catacombs, depending on where the story would take place. Somewhere in Europe...maybe even Romania.

      2.) A more modern setting in the frozen wilderness of Alaska, when a scientific/tourist group treks beyond a frozen sanctuary in the middle of nowhere. Mysterious killings begin to spread, as does a strange disease which no one can entirely figure out. When one of the men or women is believed to have died of this illness only to inexplicably return, the group comes to find out that a menagerie of vampires have taken residence in the area - where the sun doesn't shine and victims are too far away from civilization for anyone to hear their screams.

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    • Ryan Murphy has not said that Vampires would be featured in a AHS Season. He was referring to a possible spin off series that would possibly have a vampire theme. 

      http://cartermatt.com/52924/american-horror-story-coven-spoilers-ryan-murphy-on-possible-vampire-show/

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    • I read an article which said what I previously wrote. Maybe it was wrong...

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    • American Horror Story: Detroit

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    • The United States consists of 50 states, 16 territories, a federal district, and various overseas extraterritorial jurisdictions. Across that vast map, there are countless vile tales of horror Murphy can tell in new seasons of AHS. There is no need whatsoever to continue old stories...PERIOD. I may be in some sort of minority in not wanting to see what happened to our friends of past seasons, but leave them there, they're literally ghosts of seasons past. I think satiating the fanbase of the, for example, "Constance/Michael" storyline, takes away from the horror fanbase of the show that enjoys seeing a fresh take on horror year after year. I, for one, love watching Lange (and others) unfold into new roles season after season and the challenge it brings. It would be a wasted season to continue storylines from Murder House,Asylum,Coven...and it would be a form of "shark jumping".

      There's a Pandora's Box of pandemonium to opened by Murphy somewhere in the US of A.

      We have offered great suggestions on this board. I'd love to watch any of them, but keep Murphy's mad science of a fresh formula season to season intact.

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    • take a breath friend. these are just ideas. they're not ACTUAL stories of the next season. But just because they're continuing the story does not mean its going to be in the same setting. For example the story could continue with michael as some sort of power figure. its not exactly revisiting the horror house with all the same characters. it would just have constance's character.

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    • Something about the Jewish mythology would be interesting. There are lots of stories like that of the dubbik box.

      Or something about ghettoes. The Wire meets AHS. xD

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    • I think a Manson family theme would be pretty cool. Going back to a time with serial killers, cults, & great music. I think Zachary Quinto would make a great Charles Manson. Taissa Farmiga, Lily Rabe, & Evan Peters would be perfect for Charles Manson's cult followers.

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    • No more Taissa please, that girl is a disappointment...

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    • I wouldn't mind an urban legend themed season...

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    • I have an amazing idea:

      Prisons ! some famous prison in the us.

      Jessica Lange runs it, could make this an opposite of season 3 by it being  fully masculine? with women running the prison. How some actors want to escape prison so they dig a hole to find that its a mass grave of people who are not all together human. EP 11 of coven is supposed to give us hints. Anyway, if its going to be dark then prepare yourselves, as asylum was pretty dark. the show is nothing without jessica lange anyway so yeah, the last season ever.

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    • Do0iits wrote:
      I have an amazing idea:

      Prisons ! some famous prison in the us.

      Jessica Lange runs it, could make this an opposite of season 3 by it being  fully masculine? with women running the prison. How some actors want to escape prison so they dig a hole to find that its a mass grave of people who are not all together human. EP 11 of coven is supposed to give us hints. Anyway, if its going to be dark then prepare yourselves, as asylum was pretty dark. the show is nothing without jessica lange anyway so yeah, the last season ever.

      It's an interesting idea, but it seems to strike to close a resemblance to Asylum. We already know that next season will be filmed in either new mexico or stay in Louisiana. I'm thinking, if they film in sant fe, new mexico, then they may revisit aliens, but this time the story will focus on them rather than have them be an obscure subplot. 

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    • BadlyBruisedMuse wrote:
      Do0iits wrote:
      I have an amazing idea:

      Prisons ! some famous prison in the us.

      Jessica Lange runs it, could make this an opposite of season 3 by it being  fully masculine? with women running the prison. How some actors want to escape prison so they dig a hole to find that its a mass grave of people who are not all together human. EP 11 of coven is supposed to give us hints. Anyway, if its going to be dark then prepare yourselves, as asylum was pretty dark. the show is nothing without jessica lange anyway so yeah, the last season ever.

      It's an interesting idea, but it seems to strike to close a resemblance to Asylum. We already know that next season will be filmed in either new mexico or stay in Louisiana. I'm thinking, if they film in sant fe, new mexico, then they may revisit aliens, but this time the story will focus on them rather than have them be an obscure subplot. 

      I don't think its closely related to asylum. "American horror story: Trapped

      They could start of by establishing how corrupt this prison is, with drug trafficking, all people at risk of getting killed, people getting framed into prison. Jessica Lange being a horrible warden and fucking with people in general. the big boss has no idea of this and is sick and twisted himself

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    • BadlyBruisedMuse wrote:
      Do0iits wrote:
      I have an amazing idea:

      Prisons ! some famous prison in the us.

      Jessica Lange runs it, could make this an opposite of season 3 by it being  fully masculine? with women running the prison. How some actors want to escape prison so they dig a hole to find that its a mass grave of people who are not all together human. EP 11 of coven is supposed to give us hints. Anyway, if its going to be dark then prepare yourselves, as asylum was pretty dark. the show is nothing without jessica lange anyway so yeah, the last season ever.

      It's an interesting idea, but it seems to strike to close a resemblance to Asylum. We already know that next season will be filmed in either new mexico or stay in Louisiana. I'm thinking, if they film in sant fe, new mexico, then they may revisit aliens, but this time the story will focus on them rather than have them be an obscure subplot. 

      I think a Cowboys vs. Aliens plotline would work well mixed in with Native folklore/mythology...I suggested on the "Season 4 Confirmed" board that even my idea of a Gold Rush thing could be mixed in with a Santa Fe season, miners stumbling on alien relics, something like that (like a Kingdom of the Crystal Skull type feel)...

      If I'm not mistaken, I believe it was said that the 4th season would not be "Contemporary"...that doesn't rule out a futuristic feel tho, like the steampunk themed area of westerns, the "Weird West" genre of horror has alot of inspiration for Murphy to draw from.

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    • Along the same lines of the circus/carnival it could be American Horror Story: Worlds Fair.  In the late 1800's H.H.Holmes one of the first known serial killers built a hotel in Chicago for the Worlds Fair and had it designed specifically for murder, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._H._Holmes.  Maybe something centered around this?  I know they've mentioned New Orleans and Santa Fe as potential sites but maybe something similar with different locations?  Just a thought.

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    • I am pleased that season 4 is looking like Murphy is going out west to Santa Fe, now we let the season 5 ideas start!

      I think my suggestion of a Gold Rush type season can be satisfied in the Santa Fe season, at least western elements will be included, not staying true to the actual suggestion of centering around miners, but who knows, maybe it can be worked in, I said in a prior post that miners could stumble upon some alien relics and that can be worked into New Mexico's rich alien history...let's leave the wild west up to Murphy to tame and can't wait to watch it unfold.

      So that leaves me with my ideas of a "Hell on Earth" season, not neccesarily using my presentation of a Dante's Inferno incorporation, (Airports/stops in cities in America as "Circles of Hell")

      Or: my Dust Bowl season, with an apocolyptic feel, with starvation/cannibalism/plague like animals/monsters...etc.

      Another contemplation I had was an expansion on an Alaska season...American Horror Story:Frozen

      This season would satisfy a vampire/warewolf type theme.

      I think the whole idea of vampires/warewolves should be portrayed as ruthless mob families. It can be an AHS version of the Godfather and other mafia movies, but with a supernatural horror spin.

      Alaska is like Italy/Sicily as far as a refuge.

      I'd suggest warewolves should be characterized as skinwalkers/shapeshifters, not typical warewolves, like in the mob, you don't know someone's true colors/interntions...

      Vampires/Skinwalkers can be like the Corleone/Tattaglia war.

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    • Hi I'm new an I was just wondering do all the seasons take place within the same universe? It seems that it's supposed Supernatural combined with Horror Movies so I think I'll like the show. Does anyone know how many season are on Netflix?

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    • 50.134.1.69 wrote:
      Hi I'm new an I was just wondering do all the seasons take place within the same universe? It seems that it's supposed Supernatural combined with Horror Movies so I think I'll like the show. Does anyone know how many season are on Netflix?

      Season 1 & 2 are on netflix. 

      The seasons are not related to each other in any way.  They each have their own self contained story with a beginning middle and end.  

      If there is anything that the seasons have in common is the fact that many of the same cast member return each season, but to play entirely different unrelated characters. 

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    • BadlyBruisedMuse wrote:
      50.134.1.69 wrote:
      Hi I'm new an I was just wondering do all the seasons take place within the same universe? It seems that it's supposed Supernatural combined with Horror Movies so I think I'll like the show. Does anyone know how many season are on Netflix?
      Season 1 & 2 are on netflix. 

      The seasons are not related to each other in any way.  They each have their own self contained story with a beginning middle and end.  

      If there is anything that the seasons have in common is the fact that many of the same cast member return each season, but to play entirely different unrelated characters. 

      Thanks watching it right now.

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    • I never thought of it before but I really like the Gold Rush/Dust Bowl/Western type theme for next season that some of you have suggested!

      I'd also like to see a Freakshow/Circus type setting and a way to incorporate mermaids/sirens

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    • What about American Horror Story Roanoke? I've seen some plays on that now, but it could be very good. 

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    • I'm beginning to really enjoy the idea of a western/civil war season...although a freakshow/circus/carnival theme would be cool too...I recently started to watching Carnivale (after a friend suggested it) and I can see the appeal that the AHS writers would have towards such theme. I have high hopes for season four and expect it to be the best yet! The return to darkness and heavy themes of horror will be a welcomed reunion.

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    • PowderChanel wrote:
      I'm beginning to really enjoy the idea of a western/civil war season...although a freakshow/circus/carnival theme would be cool too...I recently started to watching Carnivale (after a friend suggested it) and I can see the appeal that the AHS writers would have towards such theme. I have high hopes for season four and expect it to be the best yet! The return to darkness and heavy themes of horror will be a welcomed reunion.

      I used Carnivale as a defense that a Dust Bowl themed AHS season could work seeing that Carnivale was set during that time. In order not to "copy" Carnivale, the elements of the sheer terrifying despair that the Dust Bowl era was could be used.

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    • Briarcliff Montgomery wrote:
      No more Taissa please, that girl is a disappointment...

      no, her character, zoe, was a disappointment. taissa was just stuck with an incredibly boring and fickle character. honestly, i blame the writers who wrote her character.

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    • 99.51.148.157 wrote:
      Briarcliff Montgomery wrote:
      No more Taissa please, that girl is a disappointment...
      no, her character, zoe, was a disappointment. taissa was just stuck with an incredibly boring and fickle character. honestly, i blame the writers who wrote her character.

      I'm all for Taissa returning...I find her charming, and Zoe grows on me more and more each episode. As for a romance plot between her character and Evan's future character...they can leave that out.

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    • I know the season will be great no matter what but I hope they bring back Zachary Quinto for a major role! 

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    • Happy New Year fellow AHS wiki friends!!! If you are like me, you may have spent NYE/New Years Day watching the SYFY Twilight Zone marathon.

      This classic series was part of Ryan Murphy's imagery for the format of AHS. The Twilight Zone was groundbreaking at the time and true sci-fi, fantasy, and horror genious.

      So, upon watching and researching some of the episodes, which ones would you like to see serve as inspiration for future AHS seasons???

      These are my ideas:

      "The Monsters are Due on Maple Street": a season built on supernatural and paranormal events surrounding a small American town and the horrors that result from the suspicious mayhem.

      "Mirror Image": a season built on the battle of good/evil featuring a world that ones doppelganger is fighting to rule. Every character has a double role...

      "Will the Real Martian Please Stand Up": a season built around aliens living amongst us and the twisted things that result from "outing" who is human and who is not.

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    • 129.110.241.35 wrote: I wouldn't mind an urban legend themed season...

      YES. I would love this so much.

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    • I would love a dust-bowl themed season, considering how horrifying Carnivale was without horror even being the point. The scary thing about Carnivale is that they weren't even trying to be scary, just realistic about the time period. Just think if Carnivale had been meant as a horror show. It would have been the scariest thing ever!

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    • No matter what we are gonna have some real life crimes hidden into the show. 

      Season One: Black Dahlia Murder

      Season Two: Nazis/Anne Frank 

      Season Three: Madame Lalaurie and Madame Laveau.

      I think we could easily find some real life Carnival crime or something from a time period that could fit in there. 

      Also Ryan Murphy has expressed his love for carnival themed literature and movies so I can see him drawing from that.

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    • 69.253.226.83 wrote:
      I would love a dust-bowl themed season, considering how horrifying Carnivale was without horror even being the point. The scary thing about Carnivale is that they weren't even trying to be scary, just realistic about the time period. Just think if Carnivale had been meant as a horror show. It would have been the scariest thing ever!

      American Horror Story:Dust

      It's a season I that love to ship on this wiki...the sheer catastrophic terror of that era is America's true Horror Story

      As I mentioned in previous posts, between disease, despair, devastation, and dysfunction, the Dust Bowl offers tales of disgust that can be fictionalized in a dramatic and utterly diabolical way by Murphy and company. Pictures from the Dust Bowl years are cringing. Imagine how creepy a season would be seeing everyone in goggles and breathing through gas masks... 

      Major theme to be explored: Environmentalism (Murphy loves social justice topics, so this one ought to be up his alley)

      Other themes/plots: cannibalism (due to starvation), disfigurement (think raspers from season 2, due to poisioned water/food supply as result of dust storms), animal plagues (read up on the monstrous bug/animal population during Dust Bowl era), mayhem/murder (due to despair)

      my original post of a Dust Bowl season is listed from October 30, 2013 on this thread FYI...

      I'm glad people are getting to like the idea...it would be amazingly tragically beautiful to watch and leave us all shuddering.

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    • I really like the Theater one! I mean someone should make that entire idea into a movie! Once I read Dorian Gray, I kinda god hooked

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    • I would love to see AHS take place in America during the 20s. There were a LOT of people immigrating at that time so I feel like he could work well with the idea of foreign elements infiltrating the country. This could be an easy way to justify Vampires making their way into America.

      I also think this would be a cool setting because there would be a variation of cultures to clash against each other. Not to mention the tension between the rich and the poor. At that time some of the biggest tycoons were rising, making billions off of their monopolies. Meanwhile many of the citizens were forced to share an apartment with several other families and eat out of trash cans. There was no middle class.

      Also there were little regulations in the society. Local butchers would put all kinds of things in the meat to make it last. There are even reports of butchers losing fingers in the process and just letting it get ground into the meat. This would be a good way to introduce cannibalism, a topic which Murphy hasn't really hit on. And in my opinion cannibalism would work excellently with vampires.

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    • I love the idea of a circus theme but I feel like it could get a little too campy. I feel the same way about a western/dust bowl theme. I have no doubt Ryan could execute them in a perfectly twisted way but I just feel like he will have something extra special up his sleeve for Jessica Lange's farewell season.

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    • 74.235.133.143 wrote:
      I would love to see AHS take place in America during the 20s. There were a LOT of people immigrating at that time so I feel like he could work well with the idea of foreign elements infiltrating the country. This could be an easy way to justify Vampires making their way into America.

      I also think this would be a cool setting because there would be a variation of cultures to clash against each other. Not to mention the tension between the rich and the poor. At that time some of the biggest tycoons were rising, making billions off of their monopolies. Meanwhile many of the citizens were forced to share an apartment with several other families and eat out of trash cans. There was no middle class.

      Also there were little regulations in the society. Local butchers would put all kinds of things in the meat to make it last. There are even reports of butchers losing fingers in the process and just letting it get ground into the meat. This would be a good way to introduce cannibalism, a topic which Murphy hasn't really hit on. And in my opinion cannibalism would work excellently with vampires.

      I like this...elements of your suggestion of feuding cultures can nicely fit into my past idea of a vampire/warewolf season based around Alaska.

      My vision is that vampire families/warewolf families are in the same vein as feuding mafia families. You can use the 20s as flashbacks or primary settings to demonstrate the families' rise to power, coming to America, etc. (like The Godfather series did using different time periods to tell the Coreleones' story especially Vito's beginnings).

      I saw Alaska as a "refuge" (like Italy is) to the Vampires due to the element of darkness that Alaska presents. The season can be based in different parts of the country, but to keep it "American" Horror Story...we can't focus too much on foreign soil.

      I like the butcher reference...the profession itself has mob ties.

      Also cannibalism can be taken literally and figuratively during the season.

      I like the idea of seeing warewolves in a skinwalker/shapeshifter role...changing faces/forms to disguise themselves from the kill. (Has some inspiration from the Twilight Zone episode "The Four of Us are Dying" read up on it)

      Mob relations are all about deception, not knowing who to trust. I think portraying the mafia warewolf family as skinwalkers/shapeshifters would fit well. 

      I think an American Horror Story season built around these ideas is an offer Murphy can't refuse.

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    • while I'm sure 'Dust' and 'Gold rush' seem interesting they are in no way as eye-catching of the previous AHS's. Every season is centred around one building/location, such as the Asylum in season 2. This is why 'Circus' would have perfect potential as, of course, it would be centred around the freakshow/circus and I'm sure Murphy and co would have no preoblem coming up with dark and twisted creatures and stories to go along with it. The 'Dust' and 'Gold rush' ideas would be too awkward to come up with some dark and twisted tales which are characteristic to every season. Yes the times then were full of death and murder but not in any way close to that of the other AHS season's and personally they just sound boring and too unlike AHS.

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    • If it is indeed a circus theme next season I think we'll be seeing Emma Roberts again. She would be a perfect tight rope walker, or a contortionist. 

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    • 184.65.77.185 wrote:
      If it is indeed a circus theme next season I think we'll be seeing Emma Roberts again. She would be a perfect tight rope walker, or a contortionist. 

      A lot of people don't like her but I would LOVE to see her return! I think all the hate is mostly fueled by the fact that she's snagged Evan Peters.

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    • I really want Emma Roberts to come back.  She is by far my favorite "young" cast member this season.  While she cant really hold a candle to Lange, Bates or Bassett, I find myself enjoying her more and more every episode. i really like all of the cast this year! I think that they found a reallly nice blend of people for what they are trying to do this season.  What ever the next season is I want Emma Roberts to be in it!

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    • i think it will be a circus theme because in tonight's episode Nan was called bozo the clown or something like that. a hint maybe?

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    • 173.49.210.175 wrote:
      i think it will be a circus theme because in tonight's episode Nan was called bozo the clown or something like that. a hint maybe?

      Nice catch! I can't remember what exactly she was called but I'm pretty sure it had to do with clowns.

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    • 173.49.210.175 wrote:
      i think it will be a circus theme because in tonight's episode Nan was called bozo the clown or something like that. a hint maybe?

      Isn't the 1/15 or the 1/22 episode the "clue drop" episode??? Think the 1/8 one was too soon.

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    • I've read online that Lange has always wanted to play a certain role and in this season, Ryan confirmed, she will be playing that roll -- or a spin-off of that person. The person was an actress/stage performer. Recent rumors have said that the next season could be a circus or carnival theme -- which I would love, the "freak show" them would be wicked -- but also a brothel and lastly, a stage-driven arena to where Lange can portray the roll in.


      But, yes, starting with the episode that will be airing on January 15, the writers will begin to "drop hints" as to what season four will be. I'm dying to find out.

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    • 67.142.182.25 wrote:
      I've read online that Lange has always wanted to play a certain role and in this season, Ryan confirmed, she will be playing that roll -- or a spin-off of that person. The person was an actress/stage performer. Recent rumors have said that the next season could be a circus or carnival theme -- which I would love, the "freak show" them would be wicked -- but also a brothel and lastly, a stage-driven arena to where Lange can portray the roll in.


      But, yes, starting with the episode that will be airing on January 15, the writers will begin to "drop hints" as to what season four will be. I'm dying to find out.

      Using the Lange "dream role" theory, a circus theme or western theme would be satisfactory to that.

      Circus: Plenty of acts under the AHS big top of terror for Jessica to fill.

      Western: Jessica as a seductive saloon songbird in a dusty ghost town of the wild west.

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    • in defense of American Horror Story:Dust

      On the weather channel: "When Weather Changed History-Dust Bowl" on now.

      Truly terrifying accounts...people thought it was the "face of the devil" and "hell approaching"...

      The Dust Bowl was pyschologically breaking.

      The American heartland was a wasteland, skies were dark over multiple states...

      The Dust Bowl was truly apocalyptic, annihilating cities...

      diseases ran rampant, a medical crisis was issued...not just for humans...everyone wore gas masks and goggles...

      Death was everywhere...and it was a slow death, slaughter of thousands of animals happened...clubbing of jack rabbits and other creatures happened, other critters ran amok in plague-like amounts.

      Thousands of dead bodies, human and animal, permeated the land. Everywhere you looked was death.

      Corruption was very much alive though.

      Pictures from the Dust Bowl era are amongst the most disturbing in American history.

      The devastation is still felt today in some areas.

      There is so much Murphy can do with a Dust Bowl season, with a little imagination.

      There is no greater horror than the horror that you cannot control...

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    • Madison called Nan Mumbles the clown who is a real life horror themed clown. Sounds like a clue to me.

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    • 68.235.175.81 wrote:
      Madison called Nan Mumbles the clown who is a real life horror themed clown. Sounds like a clue to me.

      Also, when I googled Mumbles a common image was a picture of a clown laying down in a bathtub, the same way Nan died. Surely there is some significance here. This might sound crazy but what if Madison knew what Nan's fate would be? She is gaining a lot of powers... not sure if seeing the future is even part of the bargain though.

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    • I really like the idea of a WWII/Holocaust themed season. It would be a chance to increase awareness of that point in history AND make it a really spectacular season if conducted in the right way; a lot of people find that time period interesting. I think an aquatic theme would be cool as well; something filmed on a ship or out at sea. I was really put off by the alien element in season 2; didn't like that, thought it was tacky - I was especially disappointed when it wasn't explained or delved into as much as the issues in season one were. It left me with the impression that the creators weren't really sure how to wrap it up. I liked the Dust Bowl idea, and i also like the idea of setting the show in Alaska. Either of those ideas would be fantastic. If the circus/carnival rumors are true, I would not be disappointed; a season like that could be fun in a lot of ways. One of the things I did like about season two was the psychotic/mental element going on, I thought it was really interesting and gave the show a haunting twist. I hope season four has as many shockers and plot twists as season one did, and I hope it's just as well thought-out, complex, and organized. I've sadly noticed that the last two seasons haven't been as such, and while they have been very good all the same, season one will always be my favorite and, in my opinion, the most well done.

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    • 68.226.53.100 wrote: I really like the idea of a WWII/Holocaust themed season. It would be a chance to increase awareness of that point in history AND make it a really spectacular season if conducted in the right way; a lot of people find that time period interesting. I think an aquatic theme would be cool as well; something filmed on a ship or out at sea. I was really put off by the alien element in season 2; didn't like that, thought it was tacky - I was especially disappointed when it wasn't explained or delved into as much as the issues in season one were. It left me with the impression that the creators weren't really sure how to wrap it up. I liked the Dust Bowl idea, and i also like the idea of setting the show in Alaska. Either of those ideas would be fantastic. If the circus/carnival rumors are true, I would not be disappointed; a season like that could be fun in a lot of ways. One of the things I did like about season two was the psychotic/mental element going on, I thought it was really interesting and gave the show a haunting twist. I hope season four has as many shockers and plot twists as season one did, and I hope it's just as well thought-out, complex, and organized. I've sadly noticed that the last two seasons haven't been as such, and while they have been very good all the same, season one will always be my favorite and, in my opinion, the most well done.


      I think it would be difficult to do a WWII/Holocaust theme in America, and I think that American Horror Story should take place in America hence the name American Horror Story. Same with the out to sea idea, I really dislike the Dust Bowl idea, maybe it's just because there are one or two people on here that are over pushing that idea but I think it's just not a good idea. Carnival/Circus I think is awesome, clowns, acrobats, freaks of nature, bearded ladies, magicians, there is a wealth of ideas to draw from with that theme. Whatever it is I'm sure Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk will make sure it's good.

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    • During the face off with the corporation, Harrison mentioned communist! Perhaps that was a hint to season 4. A group of communist or something. Ya know McCarthyism & Joe McCarthy.

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